I believe that we have to engage in technology by trying it. And I think that we have to accept the fact that both of these things are true all the time — that we are both the parent of technology and its child, and that we are both the master of technology and the slave at the same time, all the time. They are comparable in their achievement, and there will be university courses and professors specializing in studying them just as they have Dickens experts. You cannot predict the path of that drop as it goes down the hill. So yeah, we change; we adapt. The author of Out of Control: The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems, and the Economic World and What Technology Wants, Kelly has just published his newest book, titled The Inevitable: Understanding the 12 Technological Forces That Will Shape Our Future. Most of the problems in the future are going to be created by technologies we're creating today.
And then the second one is very similar, which is, does it strengthen the community? There's still going to be a gap between our placement of it and our acceptance of it. We ourselves, our society, will become more mutualistic. Kelly recommends this book from author and speaker Cal Newport to. So you could say that Google is increasing answers over time, but what's interesting is that answers are becoming cheap; they're almost free, and I think what becomes scarce in this kind of place that we're headed to is questions, a really good question, because a really good question can unleash new questions. By holos I include the collective intelligence of all humans combined with the collective behavior of all machines, plus the intelligence of nature, plus whatever behavior emerges from this whole.
I discovered that I had a telegraphic style that was very suited for online discourse. My father was involved in some role with computers and took me to a computer show around 1965 or so, I think. It's the slow accumulation of a very tiny increase in new choices over time. The question that I'm asking myself is, how far will we share, when are we going to stop sharing, and how far are we going to allow ourselves to monitor and surveil each other in kind of a coveillance? They are your customers, or a hobby tribe. So we have plenty of choices that make a huge difference to us. Join us for this two-part interview.
Kevin Kelly is Senior Maverick at Wired magazine. You cannot run anything on the Internet and not have it being copied. Flows and streams are still trickles. We don't even have scientific prefixes for the orders of magnitude of this data that we're going to be generating and managing in real time. This self-referential dynamic has a future. First, it's natural, it has nothing to do with coercion or scalping customers.
Remixing For millennials who buy their music by the track, not the album, remixing is a way of life. People like him are actually helping them in a certain sense clear out this dead wood and remain legal and do things above board and have the support of the public behind them. We're adding things like a triple blind experiment or multiple authors or quantified self where you have experiment of N equals one. That process of refining things, I think, is the necessary path of technology, but I actually wrote about the Amish because I think the Amish have a great lesson for us in their approach to technology. It's an invention that we're still evolving and refining.
But you also talk about how these will impact how we learn. What you want to do is to manage your leaks and work with them and not consider these things as treason. Kevin Kelly: Yeah, I definitely did not identify or even dream of being a writer. What we're doing is we're increasing the modes, and right now there's a huge flurry of activity as people explore what you can do with Twitter. They are the result of networks of communication expanding till they are global and ubiquitous, and as the networks deepen they gradually displace matter with intelligence. Discussion guide from my conversation with Kevin Kelly: — Lead us off by explaining the purpose, the big idea, behind this book. It makes that much more likely.
They'll put you in jail, and so Gandhi and the civil disobedience people worked within the context of the laws of the British Empire, knowing what was acceptable and what wasn't. If one way to increase product value is to make products free, then many things now free may contain potential value not yet perceived. So this is going to be a process. Or, to put it a different way, the right kind of instability can now be good. A protopian, not a utopian I call myself a protopian, not a utopian. There's no reason why you can't have great artists making Web pages.
That forces them to pay attention, to support their local neighborhood, their community. What we see over time is an increase in progress, an increase in living standards, an increase in the prevalence of technology that is brought about by previous technologies. The input is reading papers and articles. It turns out the machines are actually really good at giving you answers — and not just simple answers. It's moving in certain directions, and I would say that if we were to make a list of where it's going, it's not a destiny but kind of a direction. They were all shocked that so many others showed up. In terms of the cosmos, it's actually continuing and accelerating the things that life and evolution were doing on the planet.
That is, in a certain sense, this technium is an extension of the same forces that self-organized into life, and that are continuing through the technium, so that the technium is inherently not anti-life. And Where are we going? Intelligence is not a single thing. Innovation is inherently not efficient — or science, for that matter. I thought in those terms, and later started working on magazines. This wide-ranging book is about how machines, the economy, and all large human-made inventions are becoming biological.
One he had to shut down, and one he had to sell. New York Times bestselling author and co-founder of Wired magazine, Kevin Kelly, stopped by the show to chat with me about his journey from travel journalist to famed futurist. So you have the power to do evil expanded. What we can try and do is civilize and make a convivial kind of tracking. That stone hammer could be used to kill somebody, or it could be used to make a structure, but before that stone hammer became a tool, that possibility of making that choice did not exist. In small amounts, it is harmless, but in large amounts, it is toxic.